"God On Trial: The Backstory" RESCUE RADIO with Marjorie Cole

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Rescue Radio, because there's a war for your soul. Yes, Father God, we're excited.

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There is a war, but it has been won.

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Thank you for coming to rescue us, Lord God, and dying for us that the curses

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of sin and death were taken away from us.

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And you've given us power and restored unto us the power and authority to help

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you to walk in the fullness of the victories of the kingdom of God.

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And I thank you, Jesus, for all the creative ways that you have used us in this journey,

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Father God, and that you are going to give us eyes to see, ears to hear,

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a heart to receive your wisdom and your instruction,

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Lord God, that we might walk more fully and with wisdom as we go forward to

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walk out the victories that you died to give us on Calvary.

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And we bind the strongmen, the familiar spirits, those who will hold assignments against us,

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the work of the enemy, the grip of the terrible one, any spirits of witchcraft,

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sorcery, enchantment that try to overwhelm or overtake us, your people,

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the remnant, the Church of Jesus Christ with deception, we bind and forbid it.

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We commend that they be exposed and that their plans be absolutely routed and

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exterminated, Father God.

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And we thank you that you promised that no weapon formed against us will prosper.

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So again, we're standing in your promises and rejoicing in your faithfulness.

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So guide us in this conversation now in Jesus' name. Amen.

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So, what are we talking about today, honey? Well, we're talking about God on Trial.

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Oh, God on Trial. Yeah. Isn't that an audio drama or something? Yeah.

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Hello. Yes, that's an audio drama that it's kind of in the old years ago,

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there were radio dramas.

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Yeah, there were. You had the sound effects and, you know, it's like,

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oh, you just imagined and you saw all this stuff.

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Through the sound. Through the sound. And so, you know, and you've put together something.

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This is something you've done. It's opening arguments, got on trial.

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And what exactly is opening arguments?

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And go ahead and tell us a little bit about that. Opening arguments came out of a boring thesis,

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a treatise on all the things I had gathered in my little journey about the truth

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of God, sin, you know, redemption,

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the battle, the war, the spiritual war, and I wanted to write it in the form

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of kind of a book. Of course, everybody wants to write a book.

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And so I started writing the manuscript, typing it, and I saw all these words

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on the page, no white space, and I was saying to myself, oh,

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I don't even know if I want to read this or could read this. Why?

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If I can't even read this, how is anybody else going to want to read this?

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So I was a little painted in a corner with this. I thought it was a very important truth.

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Truths needed to be told, but I didn't know what to do next.

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And so what I did do next was I took the manuscript to a conference where there

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were published authors who were willing to listen to excerpts or passages from wannabe authors' work.

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And so I read a few paragraphs or whatever to the audience, and it just like

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felt flopped right on the floor and it was like

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a lead balloon like we used to say oh it was like oh my goodness this is so

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bad and nobody liked it and it was like,

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And so then we had lunch. We went to lunch. Thank God for lunch that day.

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Because I sat next to someone who was a published author. She had done a lot

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of work with workbooks and things like that.

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And she said to me as we were eating, she says, well, why don't you just chunk the material?

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Okay. That was her exact words.

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What's chunk the material? What does that mean? Well, what I took it to mean

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and what I think she tried to say was, you know, present it in a different format

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where you break it down, make it more palatable in littler bites.

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And so I really didn't know what that was going to look like until God dropped

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it in my mind to write it as a script.

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You know, what I wanted to do was present the idea of the war between God and

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Satan for the souls of men.

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And I'd done a lot of studying on movie scripts and how you write those things

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and the plot and the hero's journey and all these things but this didn't quite

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look like that but in some ways it was kind of like that so I wrote a script,

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with the dialogue, with the characters and the scenes and all this stuff and I put that all in a book,

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in a manuscript and I sent it to a bunch of publishers back in 2000 about that

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when we were still trying to get our books published by publishing houses,

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you know, and everyone rejected me.

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They didn't like the script concept. I mean, to me, it was like,

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this is really cool because people, you know, it'd be easy to follow.

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You know, you got a lot of white space there. You can go along. Yeah. But anyway.

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They didn't like it at all. No one would read this. And then I thought to myself,

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you know what? You forgot something.

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Pilgrim's Progress is written in the form of a script, and it is the second

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most popular religious book in the world.

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Next to the Bible. Yeah, next to the Bible. And so, but I took it home and I

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said, okay, well, then we're going to have to give it sound.

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We're going to have to give it action. We're going to have to get actors.

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We're going to have to actually bring it forth, not just on the off the page.

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We're going to bring it off the page.

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And so, God on trial, opening arguments, basically the premise is examining

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the idea is, does God have a right to rule the world? And is God good?

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So that's what we had to start with, examining God's right to rule the world.

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Yeah, so that's, you know, there's people that have challenged God or the idea of God over the years.

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And then you had all these theological insights and understandings about how

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God works, how spiritual warfare works, and everything like that.

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So you're there and wanting to put it in a palatable form. and so what is exactly

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is the premise there I mean you're wanting to put it in a.

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A story form, kind of. A story form. Yeah. But what's essentially the premise of God on Trail?

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Well, it's this, that people have a lot of, you know, they have a lot of,

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there's a lot of stumbling blocks in working through your relationship with

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God. If God is so good, then why did he do this?

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And there's a lot of people even in the Old Testament that had a bone to pick with God.

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And so, all we wanted to do was bring forth a premise, a venue, where we could actually.

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Challenge God in a way where we would present, like a courtroom scene,

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where you'd have the prosecution being Satan, and you'd have the prosecutor

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and the defense attorney being the justice.

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And so, that's what we did.

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We presented a script. We had to set up the story, And to set the story,

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we went back to Eden and dramatized Adam and Eve and the temptation in the garden.

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And then there was this huge, obvious, horrible sin breakdown in the human race.

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And so everybody's looking for a solution.

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And so chapters or episodes 1, 2, 3, and 4 are kind of setting up this idea of taking God to court.

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And will God permit us to take him to court? So that was the first couple of episodes.

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We had to kind of work through how would you make that palatable?

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How would you make that feasible? And how would you do that?

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And so it's a very fun bunch of issues and problems we had to work through.

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So you're dramatizing and you're condensing.

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But you're staying true to the Word of God. You're staying true to the Word of God.

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You have some creative license in there?

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Well, I was limiting my license to the biblical truth,

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but I did have to do some creative licensing because when we started to think

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about who would we draw from the Old Testament, this is all featuring,

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so it's the story of God on trial in the heavenly courtroom.

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Satan coming in with his prosecution, his arguments, calling his witnesses,

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and then the defense attorney calling his witnesses.

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So we had to collect our witnesses and things like that.

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But it also was to try to, you know, bring forth another concept.

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And that second concept was the subplot or the substory.

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And that was the idea of when God gave, you know, the curse,

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put the curse on Satan, the serpent, he said, the head crusher was going to come.

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And so all of this is building from that fear of the enemy that the head crusher

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was going to come and crush his head.

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So he had to find and determine out of all of these women and all of these centuries

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who that head crusher would, from where he would come.

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And so he knew it was going to be the seed of a woman. So this is our subplot

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where the enemy on earth, the demons, if you will, are on earth and they're

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looking for this threat, this head crusher.

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And so what we have done too is written, I wrote the script from the devil's

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point of view. So he is the anti-hero of the book because we're seeing it from his point of view.

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And so he's on the offensive going after God.

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And I think that's what a lot of people do. And so this was helping people to

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understand, putting their own arguments against God into a form where they could actually.

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Work it all through, work out, well, what was, if this is so good,

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then why, and blah, blah, blah.

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And so there's two stories going on. There's the story of God being tried in

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heaven by Satan, and then there's also the subplot of finding Jesus.

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So that's very exciting because we can see two stories going on at one time.

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So, yeah, and you have the characters.

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Who are some of the Old Testament characters that you have in there?

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Well, I had to think of people who got in trouble with God, and we kind of took

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them in a chronological order.

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And the first, I think the first one was Cain, because, you know.

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Well, then you start out with Adam and Eve. Right, Adam and Eve. And the fall.

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Yeah, of course. And the temptation of the fall. And then we went back up into

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the court of heaven, too, to look at some logical arguments that justice would

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make to prove the goodness and validity of God.

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So all of the writing, which was fun, actually, fun.

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And I had no idea. when I sat down to write, whatever day I was going to write

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on, I really had no idea where it was going to go.

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I mean, I just wrote. And sometimes I'd write myself right into a corner,

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like the devil is presenting an argument about something.

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And I said to God, okay, now how do we answer that?

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And it was every time the Spirit of God would just turn it to the place where

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you're showing exactly how to answer that in the Spirit of God.

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And it was like I was learning while I was writing.

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So the Holy Spirit clearly was guiding you in this whole field.

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Yeah, and every time, and everything.

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I mean, this project, you can't imagine. This is a—.

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We've been working on this project. We were working on it.

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It started in probably 2000 when I first got my first rejections from the publishing

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house. So, that's almost 20 years in the making.

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Yeah. Yeah, we finished it in 2019, which, well, the reason is several reasons, obviously.

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But when we started this, first I'm writing the script, and it's fabulous. It's wonderful.

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It's flowing. It's good. But it's 459 pages of script.

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Yeah, and who's going to read that? I was going to read that.

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That's a lot of, so we had, we just said, okay, we're going to present this as a radio drama.

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We're going to have to shorten the episodes to like 28 minutes, something like that.

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We had no idea how many episodes it would be, but we knew that after a while.

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Well, we had a false start. We started this thing the first time and our director was an amateur.

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You know, we were all the amateurs. The actors were, you know,

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pull them off the street kind of thing.

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And I looked at it and it sounded terrible and we did our first recording,

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I think it was in the lounge in the First Covenant Church there with our own

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audio equipment and I walked out that day and said, this is not good.

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This is not going to work. And yet I wasn't going to give up but we had to kind

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of throw that idea to the wind.

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But the good thing that came out of that failure was that the guy that was going to play Satan was,

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knew a professional sound director in Chicago who had actually worked on the

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Left Behind series, the DVD version of it.

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All of the foliage, all of the sound and stuff was in that.

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He had proven himself. So we contacted him and he said yes.

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It was just kind of a fluke who would know who this

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guy was from adam but we found him and he was willing to

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to help us so that began the search for

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the actors and the and we had a

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we there's many characters in this drama i

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don't know we i think maybe 40 or 50 oh yeah anyway and and you you found just

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regular regular people that were willing to do it and you kind of you coached

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them and they recorded these different voices and various studios over a period of several years.

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Several, yes. It was quite a few years. But then you got some professional voices

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from Chicago that were just really, and actually our so-called amateurs did

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a really good job. Yeah, the ones, we had two studios.

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They really did. We had two locations, Chicago and Minneapolis.

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And so we were recording the Minneapolis actors and they'd come to our,

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we had various studios. I think we went through four or five different studios

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and whatever all that looked like.

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So when we would gather—and we would do about one episode. We just focused on one at a time.

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And I wanted to have—you know, you have to—some characters have to be really

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good, like the voice of God.

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There's one guy I wanted for God, and—

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He was out of Moody Bible Institute, I believe, and he was willing to play the

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part of the voice of God. And to me, he's just perfect. Yeah.

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Mike Kellogg. Mike Kellogg. Yeah. Excellent. Yeah.

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So I said, okay, this is taking a long time, and I don't know how old he is,

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but we cannot let God die because if we don't get this finished.

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So what I did is I wrote all of his lines first. First, I send them to him and

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he kind of recorded them just in case we would, you know, have to have them.

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And I'm not, you know. Don't want to lose God. This is a crisis for all the actors.

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Like, what if we lose one of them? And one or two dropped out because one of

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the guys didn't want to play the devil anymore. One of the devil's the demons.

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And so we had to kind of, okay, we had to readjust. Now we've got to change.

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That's in any long series. That's in any long series where you're coming up

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against, you know, life and people change and move and die and whatever.

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So that was part of the challenge. But the other part of the challenge,

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which was really probably the biggest challenge, was paying for it.

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Yeah, because it turned out, how much was it per episode? And the thing is,

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too, you paid pretty much all the amateurs.

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Yeah. You gave them something. Yeah, we paid everybody. But then you had the

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voices from— The professionals.

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From Chicago, which is, what was it, like $200 an hour? Yeah.

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And a minimum of two hours. Yeah.

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So that can count up in a hurry. Yeah. And so it ended up being,

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what is it, like something like $5,000 per 30-minute episode. Yeah, $5,000.

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And then it ended up being 28 episodes. Yeah, so we were paying as we go.

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And this was a good thing and a bad thing because when you're paying as you

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go, you're slowed down if you don't have the money. And so we raised some money in the beginning.

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Some people saw the vision, gave us some money. That was great.

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So we got to about the first four or five episodes, and then we ran out of money.

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And so then we were doing, at that point, we were doing about one episode a year.

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And so that's why it was taking so long.

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And it was, you know, but we weren't giving up on it. We just couldn't give

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up on it. It was just too fun and too great.

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And the actors were marvelous. And they did, you know, I remember some of them. It was amazing.

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You know, I found people that I wanted to play certain parts.

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We wanted to have actors who were diverse.

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We wanted to have some, you know, nationalities, different accents,

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so we could get a kind of a worldview or flavor in this, because this isn't

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just for one culture. This is for everybody.

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And so, you know, we had people who they would.

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You know, be Irish or be, you know, I don't know, Scandinavian.

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Anyway, so that was very cool and fun. And so, but I remember one of the actors,

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bless God, I loved his voice.

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And he was such a great, awesome, broken, absolutely broken believer.

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And I wanted to play the part of one of God's witnesses, Abraham.

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So God called Abraham, Moses, and let's see, Noah.

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Noah was impeached. The enemy actually called him as his witness,

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but he got impeached because Noah would not, you know, default,

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go to, you know, curse God, whatever.

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And so, but this guy, I remember the day we picked him up and he was playing

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one of these major biblical roles and he's, I had to go get him.

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Des and I went and got him. He was sleeping in his trailer. He lived in the,

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it was in the middle of winter.

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He was no food, you know, kind of like a homeless person living in a basic,

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you know, trailer, I guess.

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Oh, in a park somewhere. Yeah. And so he rolled him out of bed,

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got him some coffee, drug him into the studio.

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He was groggy and half awake.

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And I remember he is, really broken, and that's what I needed for Abraham.

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I needed somebody who was really broken in the loss of his son.

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And so we did it. We did it. He came through.

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We had to do a lot of editing and cutting and things, but he really did a great job.

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But we have all kinds. And we had just normal, ordinary people who came in with these powerful.

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Versions or scripts. They did it. They did such a powerful job.

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So that was very good. But it was also a problem because halfway through, we completely stopped.

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We completely ran out of money.

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And so we had lost contact. This was years.

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I mean, we were in the middle of this project and it's half done.

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You can't produce a half done project.

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And we weren't going to publish episode one, two, and three,

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because we weren't sure if we were going to get done all of it.

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We didn't know how long it was going to be, so we were just kind of stuck.

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And so when we were in the middle of the project, half done,

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I lost a lot of the contact with the actors.

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They'd moved, they'd, you know, changed locations.

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So when we started up again in 2018, I think it was, so we had maybe six or

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ten episodes done, and we had many to go.

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So I, well, I've got to find them back.

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And the reason we were able to start up again is actually because of my father's passing.

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My dad had left our family, each child, an inheritance.

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And with my inheritance, I felt this would be the most important thing to do,

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you know, to honor his legacy and complete this project. And so we had the money.

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And so we just went after this thing like crazy. As a matter of fact,

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that was after I got a little bit of a scolding.

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My dad passed away near the end of 2018.

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And in 2019, we were going to church one Sunday morning, and I flipped my Bible

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open, and what did it say?

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Well, 2 Corinthians 8, verses 10 and 11 says,

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And in this I give advice, it is to your advantage not only to be doing what

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you began and were desiring to do a year ago, but now you must complete the

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doing of it that as there was a readiness to desire it,

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so there also may be a completion out of what you have.

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And now the context there is they were going to give this offering.

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With Paul, yeah. So it's about money. Yeah, and they were able to,

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he said, okay, you've begun this, now finish it, get it together, get it out there.

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But the Lord used that to speak to you just to kind of say, okay, get her done here.

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Yeah, because it was about, my dad had passed away about four months before

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that, and so this was in January of 2019.

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And so we had many, many episodes to go, I don't know, 10, 15 left maybe,

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maybe even more than that.

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And so we pumped those things out. Now that we had money, we pumped them out

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three or four a month. That went sort of the first half. It was years and years.

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And then in just a matter of what? Well, we got that done in four months.

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In four months, you did about half of it toward the end.

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Yeah, and it was finished in April 26, 2019, four months basically after God had scolded me.

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And so, but it's interesting too that in the beginning of the project,

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when I was still contemplating, what's this going to look like?

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How is this going to work?

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That I flipped my Bible open again, and I got to Isaiah 20, 29.

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And I remember exactly where I was standing in our house in Blaine and in the kitchen doorway.

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And I was saying, how long, Lord, how long? Because I got this word in 2004.

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So we were just tiny, tiny, kind of a little bit into this project and it still

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was lagging and lacking money and tons of work. Plus, this was my side job.

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Side hustle. I mean, this wasn't the thing I was doing.

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You were counseling for a time. At that time, you were seeing clients like five days a week.

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Yeah, and writing books and doing all kinds of things.

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But anyway, Isaiah, this was the first word that Lord gave me,

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29, 17, he says, and I was asking him, how long is this going to take?

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And he's asked the question, is it not yet a very little while till Lebanon

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will be turned into a fruitful field and the fruitful field will be esteemed as a forest.

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And then verse 18, in that day, the deaf will hear the words of the book.

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Okay, what's the word here? The words, it has to be an audio book.

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So I owe an audio book. And the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity

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and out of darkness and the humble shall also increase their joy in the Lord.

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And the poor among men will rejoice in the Holy One of Israel for the terrible

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one is brought to nothing.

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And that's exactly what the plot was, that the terrible one would be put down, exposed, and defeated.

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The scornful one is consumed, and all who watch for iniquity are cut off.

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So they were trying to find fault with God, all these witnesses that were coming

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against them, but cut off, who make a man an offender by a word,

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and lay a snare for him who reproves in the gate, and turns aside the just for a thing of naught.

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So this really described to me what I saw opening arguments to be.

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And so this was given in 2004.

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And so we We actually completed the project 19 years later.

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You know, I don't know, 15 years later, 15 years later.

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And so this is called Perseverance. And what we wanted to do is give a little

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excerpt of what all, what this sounds like.

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This is available today on our website, Life Recovery.

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You go to liferecovery.com. It'll slip you over to a page called God on Trial.

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And then you will be able to purchase those episodes individually for like three

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bucks each, and it's 28 minutes long.

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But what I really wanted to say is this thing is amazing in that it's both entertaining.

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See, we didn't make the demons and the devil out to be scary,

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but what we do in their dialogue is show you how they work in our minds,

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how they try to bring accusation, how they plot against us.

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So we're actually showing that behind-the-scenes way that they talk with one

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another, the way they plot.

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I like especially episode three, where it says, Made in Hell,

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where they're trying to figure out how they're going to come and bring their

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case against God, now that they have permission from God to try Him.

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And so, we go with all of these.

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But the thing is very educational. It's entertaining.

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It's inspirational, and it's evangelistic. So you can use it for four different

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things. You can use it as teaching.

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Actually, we...

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Piloted the first couple of episodes with a bunch of kids. Homeschool kids. Yeah.

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They loved it, and they started taking up donations. Offerings,

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giving us their— Little offerings, their nickels and dimes and quarters.

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They gave us their allowance. They actually send us their allowance.

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They send us their allowance to make more. To make the next one, yeah. To make more.

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So the kids really got it. They really loved it. So it's not something,

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oh, it's so sophisticated the

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kids can't get it. The kids were getting it right away, and they loved it.

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Because, you know, you can use your imagination. It's like those Adventures

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in Odyssey kind of thing.

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You can just sit there and listen to it on your screen, whatever.

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And so then we got—so it's very entertaining and educational,

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and we can use it for Bible studies.

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I played it for some of a youth group one time, and one gal says,

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that's exactly how the devil sounds in my head, you know?

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And so there was getting some really positive feedback that way.

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And so it's—but it can be also the subject matter.

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Every single witness, there's Lot's wife, I'm sorry.

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There's Cain, there's Nimrod, there's Noah, there's Moses, there's Abraham.

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Lot's wife. Yeah, I said Lot's wife, yeah. And there's a few more that I forgot.

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But anyway, right now. But they...

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All presented a different theological issue.

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For example, with Cain, the issue was religion versus works,

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versus grace and the blood.

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And for Lot's wife, the question was, well, I didn't know, you know, I didn't do it.

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You know, why am I getting in trouble for what my neighbors did?

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Kind of things like that. And so, and in Moses, we see how the enemy was captured

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when God led Moses into that bottleneck box canyon up against the Red Sea,

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and Satan thought he had him with Pharaoh's armies pressing behind him.

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So you see, you hear Moses' rendition of the opening of the Red Sea.

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And in all of these, and in Jesus dying on the cross, all of those sound effects,

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all raising from the dead, going down into the belly of hell.

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Amazing, amazing sound effects. It's just like that is really what makes it.

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And so, yeah, we're just going to wrap this up with hoping and praying and trusting

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that you will want to taste this for yourself.

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And once you get episode one, you'll want two and three and four all the way to 28.

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At the time we were making it, we didn't know how long it was going to be,

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but it works out into a nice four-episode set, each seven sets of four episodes each.

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But we would encourage you to go to the store and check it out.

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We're going to actually play you a couple of excerpts.

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And this is kind of the episode that has to do with Jesus first being discovered

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by the demons. So enjoy. joy.

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The hallways outside the court of heaven were buzzing with expectation and speculation.

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Would God appear? Would he rise to defend himself? Or would he clothe himself?

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We've just gone live here at EUL. It looks like there's been a slight delay.

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We expect the prosecution to press formal charges any minute against God and

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call Cain as his first witness.

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Yeah. What do you want? Make it snappy. I'm running late.

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You're where? Right here, standing behind me in the blue suit.

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I didn't want to go red because I thought that would be too conspicuous.

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What are you doing here? This is heaven.

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There's got to be hundreds of reporters around here and thousands of undercover angels.

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Someone is bound to recognize you. Hey, what can they do to a fallen angel? Take away his wings?

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Besides, this is important. I got some good news and I got some bad news. What?

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No backstabbing, tear-wrenching sob story?

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No big fat excuse for breaking the rules and being here?

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As best we can figure it, he's coming as a baby.

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The bad news is, we don't know which baby. I, where exactly?

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Now tell me something I don't know.

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Everybody knows he's coming as a baby, idiot. What do you think seed of the woman is? A grapefruit?

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I think he might be coming in by Bethlehem.

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Bethlehem? Why Bethlehem? It's small.

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No good restaurants. And a few crummy motels. That's about it.

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A king coming out of Bethlehem?

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You've got to be kidding, right?

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That's where these wise guys were heading when the star disappeared.

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What wise guys? What star?

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The no-star in the east. Oh, don't bore me with the details.

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Good news for us. They stopped to ask for directions.

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Got the whole town stirred up.

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How fortunate is that? Lost in Bethlehem.

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It ought to be a movie As we speak, they're meeting in Jerusalem With the fat

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tats and the big shots To find out where the kid is.

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King of the Jews, they call it. Whoa. Now? In Jerusalem?

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Isn't that Herod's precinct? Our boy's got it covered.

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Herod's hot under the covers and ready to flow a basket.

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Oh, keep the pressure on him. Make him paranoid about this kid taking away his kingdom.

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He knows he's no Jew, and has always

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been insecure about being an Edomite sitting on the throne of David.

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We got him gathering all the experts. They all say the same thing.

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It's got to be Bethlehem. So, what are you waiting for? Go get the kid and kill him!

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Or bad news. There's a big census going on in Bethlehem right now,

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and thousands of extra of people are in town for the holidays.

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So, when did a party ever stop you from doing your job?

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If we just wait, that'll lead us right to him.

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What makes you think they're going to find him if you can't?

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Herod's got them believing he wants to come along and worship with them.

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They're dumb enough to believe him. So, when they come back to tell him where

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the kid is, You'll just ride along Isn't it a beautiful thing when you can get

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everybody else to do your dirty work for you?

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I want to know the minute he's dead. Oh, by the way Did they bring any gifts?

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Gold frankincense my stuff like that Be sure you get the loot on the way out.

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And we want to thank you today for listening to Rescue Radio,

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God on Trial, and encourage you again to go to liferecovery.com to pick up your

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first installments of episode 1234 to listen for yourself.

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Very soon, we will be able to have this on a basis where you can purchase all

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28 at one time. We're working on that technical opportunity.

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So, again, enjoy everything.